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Saturday, April 15, 2017

A Man In The Clouds

I visited with a friend today, George, at the Sangre de Cristo Sentinel, named after the Mountain Range, but nonetheless translates as the "Blood of Christ." And, we had the typical, yet completely engaging sort of conversations I tend to have with folks in the "doer" column. If, by the way, you have not heard the story of George and his huge "open carry" 4th of July contingent in the annual Westcliffe, CO parade, you should look into it and take out a subscription to his local paper in the right side bar, because it has plenty to entertain a national audience. Have you ever seen a weekly community newspaper with a Second Amendment section and a weekly column by a local pastor? The Sangre de Cristo Sentinel has them both.

George Gramlich is hated by his liberal, i.e. Marxist competition and none of the local Marxists will advertise in his paper, but he has found like minds in the rural parts of the county and a few more in the neighboring counties, so he is making a success of the paper, but a little help never hurts.

Anyway, that was all preamble to the main gist of the conversation, during which we delved into the topic of Marxism, the futility of the Constitution in the hands of men devoid of character and where the subject of faith was brought up as wholly necessary for a government such as this to work. Okay, I know this has been gone over a few times, but bear with me.

A little later on, I was listening to Glenn Beck, for whom I have lost a lot of respect, but it's better than NPR on a long drive to get more B-roll for Lies of Omission, though it is nearly complete, at least in the roughcut sense, so we will be looking for screening locations in the near future. I don't have a fundrazr campaign running right now, but when I do it will be at https://fundrazr.com/liesofomission3 I need to put together another trailer over the weekend.

Okay, getting back to it, I was listening to the squishy Glenn Beck and he had a guest on, a former KGB agent who lived in the US during the '70s as an atheist and a spy named Jack Barsky, who has a book out. He was talking about how he was a rabid atheist and could not be a conservative and a communist, so he cloaked himself as a liberal. Right there, it tells you a lot about the liberal mindset, if you didn't already know, which, if you are reading this, I suspect you do.

They got around to talking about his life as a spy in the United States. He talked about the loneliness and how he had a relationship with a woman who was a Christian, who persisted in her testimony and he had met Christians whom he had grown to like, so he indulged her here and there, but could not get over the idea that he was trained as a chemist and believing in some fantasy man in the clouds just wasn't working for him. And then, she asked him to listen to a favorite and famous preacher who approached Christianity in a way Barsky could handle.

Where these two instances today line up is that both George and myself and Beck and Barsky arrived pretty much at the same place. There is no morality without God. Barsky claimed to think of himself as a generally "good" person as an atheist (and yes, I know Atheists read this blog and will be fruitful in the comment section. I can handle it) but, when he looked at his life he had done some very bad things, hurtful things to people, but was still able to carry that generally "good" moniker, but came to realize that one might be "good" as an Atheist, but without any sort of dedication to being good. They just sort of wander around and try to be good as a choice between that and being "bad," but it is a sort of personal choice, not a requirement, or a duty the way it is with Christians. But, this is his story, not so much my own. And I know the Atheists who read this blog are "good" people, that is not the issue. The issue is that the government does not function without God. The Constitution relies on such things as oaths and integrity and it works so long as those things mean something to the people who write the laws, but, and this was all I was trying to get at:

Where God is not present, one is capable of being a Marxist, because it is all about the allegiance to the state, or in this case, the government and there is no sense of what one is doing is wrong, if it benefits the government, whereas a Christian might be instructed to do something that goes against their faith and will refuse.

Yes, one might be an Atheist and still be a great patriot to the cause. I am not challenging that. But, a betrayal would simply be a betrayal to an idea, or a piece of paper, or a cause, it is not a betrayal to one's God like it is to a Christian. The point being, that in a government where people are sworn to uphold the Constitution, if they don't believe in God, there is no punishment for violating their oath. Is there?

This is the point Barsky was making, that he could only be a Communist while he was an Atheist, but when he became a Christian, he could no longer be a Communist. It didn't mean he had to be a federalist type of republican/capitalist, but he could not be a Communist. While he was wavering he began to read about Lenin, thinking that it would give him power against Christianity and therefore embolden his Communism, but when he read the truth about Lenin from Western sources he was appalled at what he discovered and the whole ruse of his life began to crash down around him.

So, the really interesting part of this whole discussion was that he had, at one time, believed that Christians were ignorant and foolish to believe in some man in the clouds, but eventually came to see that he had been doing the same with Lenin and was just as ignorant and foolish as he once believed Christians to be. Now, if you are a Christian, you see the hand of God in that. I did.

24 comments:

  1. Without God, there are no moral absolutes.

    Bob

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  2. To the atheist who claims to be a "good person"--why bother? If there is no God, and this life is all there is, why waste it by putting yourself other than first? I would propose that a person who acts in this way is looking for a way to justify his weakness, or is deluding himself into thinking that his weakness is somehow a strength.

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  3. Most "atheists" aren't atheists, just whiny, angry leftists without a clue. By definition, if they vilify Christianity and Judaism, but kiss moslem ass, they're not atheists. And, most "atheists" kiss moslem ass.

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  4. My only reaction to the article and comments is this: if you truly are incapable of figuring out for yourself that killing is wrong, without that idea originating and some higher power... If you actually need the threat of everlasting torment to keep you from doing harm to others... then you are just as irrational and terrifying as the islamists.

    That's not really what you mean, is it?

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    1. If that is really what you got out of it and you aren't just trying some diversionist, trolling, then your reading comprehension must be at about .5%

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    2. That's not an argument.

      Why does lenin or god matter? Can't you figure it out for yourself? Do you have to be told right from wrong?

      Morality matters, but it can be independently understood, even independently derived. Claiming your god as the font of all true morality is deranged.

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    3. That's where you are mistaken, I am not bothering to argue with you. I know that 99% of the people who actually READ it know what I meant, you are inconsequential.

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    4. Killing is pretty black and white. What about wealth redistribution? Is that right or wrong? Why? Taxes? Free healthcare? Domestic spying? Environmental regulations? Why? Show your work. Prove these answers are not simply your whims.

      Your whim-o-meter will invariably disagree with your neighbor's, at which point people cry, "DEMOCRACY!". As the founders rightly pointed out, democracy is naught but mob rule where might makes "right", which may disagree with your whims. Sucks to be you.

      When a higher unquestionable authority is acknowledged and honored, your whims will not result in your neighbor's injury. Therein lies the requirement that God and Judeo-Christian morality is required for a Constitutional Republic.

      As for your non-sequitur regarding Muslims, their sacred texts require theft and abuse of non-muslims, whereas the Judeo-Christian texts forbid it. Spending 10 minutes at the following URL will spare you massive humiliation regarding this subject:

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/jesus-muhammad.aspx

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    5. The income tax was put in place in 1913 by WIlson. Social welfare on a massive scale began in the USA in the 1930s under FDR.

      SO, you had all these things being set up by religious Christian leaders, in a still quite religious Christian country.

      Per WIkipedia; Woodrow Wilson was a devoted Presbyterian and Georgist, and he infused his views of morality into his domestic and international policies.

      From USreligion.blogspot.com: "Andrew Preston’s Sword of the Spirit, Shield of Faith (2012) clarifies how FDR’s simple, non-intellectual Christian faith helped him succeed “in enshrining religious pluralism at the heart of the American national faith.” Preston takes FDR’s religion seriously, notwithstanding its lack of theology. “He was a Protestant Christian who respected faith in general, and thus was the most instinctively ecumenical president since Lincoln,” Preston writes. FDR once said of his ancestors, “In the dim distant past they have been Jews or Catholics or Protestants. What I am more interested in is whether they were good citizens and believers in God. I hope they were both.”

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    6. Apparently then being a devout Christian doesn't imbue one with a sense of morality that is "whim free", and even Bible believing Christians can implement big government policies like progressive taxation, welfare programs, globalism, socialism and other ill advised ideals.

      As often as not they actually claim their religious background as the reason for creating these programs.

      One is also reminded of of the dozens of Christian organizations which are literally slitting the throat of their own civilization and nation by sponsoring an endless wave of 3rd world immigration. They too are commanded to do so by their religious beliefs.

      On the personal morality level atheists are far more common in society than they are in prison, a trait that they share with only one broadly defined Christian tendency: Pentecostal.

      https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/chalabi-feature-prisons.png?quality=90&strip=all&w=575&ssl=1

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  5. I am not necessarily anti-religeous. But I am not religious, and comments such as this one, reinforcing the point you appear to make in your post...: "To the atheist who claims to be a "good person"--why bother? If there is no God, and this life is all there is, why waste it by putting yourself other than first?"

    ...tells me that at least to this commenter, religion is an exclusive club with an equally exclusive claim to righteousness. This is the exact same attitude exhibited by the islamists. Christianity has had the wisdom to grow up before it acquired nuclear weapons. Islam, not so much, still stuck in the 7th century. But still also believing it has the sole claim to truth, and willing to kill and enslave to achieve it.

    Why bother being a good person? Is he serious? That is actually terrifying to me. Is some god really the only thing holding him back from being hedonistic?

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    1. Well, you need to reply to that commenter, not me.

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    2. SW, you excel at missing the point. It's not "religion" that has the exclusive claim, it's Christ Jesus. And it's not "some god" keeping me from hedonism--the moslems worship "some god" and they're as hedonistic as can be--AND they accept murder so long as they can craft the flimsiest of justifications for it.

      Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light." This statement is either true or false. I believe that it is true. You state that you are not Christian, so I can assume that you believe that it is false.

      So without an ultimate authority, where does "goodness" come from? The definition is up to the individual. If the individual can define his own goodness, then the ultimate progression MUST be hedonism.

      My point was not how I'm being held back by God, my point is that, absent God, why aren't you doing more?

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  6. "Where God is not present, one is capable of being a Marxist, because it is all about the allegiance to the state, or in this case, the government and there is no sense of what one is doing is wrong, if it benefits the government, whereas a Christian might be instructed to do something that goes against their faith and will refuse."

    Your basically telling me that because I am not christian I am not a good person. This is the same thing the islamists would tell me. Don't be surprised when I get pissed off when someone tells me I'm not a good person because I'm not like them. The SJWs do this all the time. now I gotta take it from the christians? Nah.

    peace, out.

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    1. Since you seem to be interested in a dialog rather than insults at first, I will take the time to reply. First of all, I did not make that statement:"Where God is not present, one is capable of being a Marxist, because it is all about the allegiance to the state, or in this case, the government and there is no sense of what one is doing is wrong, if it benefits the government, whereas a Christian might be instructed to do something that goes against their faith and will refuse." At least that what a paraphrase of what Mr. Barski said.

      This is why I accused you of not having good reading comprehension. You have to distinguish between what I am writing and what I am relating.

      Several times I said that it is possible and even likely that an Atheist is a good person. That comes from parents more than God.

      But, my point was in this system, this republic of ours, it relies so much on God, because it was written by either Deists or Christians and the idea that a person would swear on the Bible and then violate that oath carried weight where it would not carry weight with an atheist.

      But no, I do not do things with the idea of reaping a reward in Heaven, nor do I not do things with the idea of losing a reward in Heaven.

      As a Christian, the Bible is pretty clear that if Heaven is a motivating factor, it will not be achieved. One must be a good person to emulate Christ, not to get into Heaven. It doesn't work that way.

      But, nowhere did I make the statement that as an Atheist one could not be a good person. There are a lot of good Atheists, but to deny that the Constitution that designed our republic, was written by and for a Christian people is false. Now, you might benefit from that and you might fight to defend it, which means you are a good American, but if you are saying that you are a Christian and a Communist, I might have my doubts. That's all.

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  7. Without "faith", we are nothing but empty vessels waiting to be filled by whatever "environment" we feel best suits our carnal interests.
    Be that a government, a theology (of sorts) or flavor-of-the-day "fad", we become victims of our own making.
    Thank G-d He exists!

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  8. God Bless You Brother TL... Christ Is Risen...

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  9. Thank you for your thoughts on this subject. Opening dialogue is an excellent way to engage people and learn about our world. The thing that I have been struggling with about this type of topic is kind of a technicality. I think that before we can have any rational discussions that involve religion we need to define what religion is. It seems in the modern world we have lost objective reality when it comes to defining what this term (or concept) actually means. What is a Christian? What is a Muslim? What is an atheist. Is the opposite of religion considered a religion. Was Jim Jones and the cool-aid drinkers a religion? Was the Rajneesh in Oregon a religion? What is a religion and how should this term be understood in our modern world.

    I would argue that the term religion has become very arbitrary and vague to most of us. But really I don't see any way to have a meaning full discussion or dialogue about the subject until those in the discussion can come to some understanding or definition about what this term means.

    As an example I have talked with very educated people that espouse that they are not religious yet they believe 1000% that man made global warming will destroy the earth very soon. By definition that belief is a religious. Comunism and Liberalism are by definition a religion that believes that Government is the higher power that they believe in. Or if you prefer the term Law instead of .gov.

    Keep up the good work TL

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  10. There would seem to be a false choice in either belief in God or belief in the state. It is entirely possible and perhaps preferable to believe in neither and still believe in individual choice, morality, individual rights and property rights. There is a lot of early Christian history tied to vigorous adhesion to collectivist ideas which predate Hagel and Marx. The state is a lost cause and to believe it can do anything requires faith as another comment stated regarding supposed Human caused global warming.

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  11. There would seem to be a false choice in either belief in God or belief in the state. It is entirely possible and perhaps preferable to believe in neither and still believe in individual choice, morality, individual rights and property rights. There is a lot of early Christian history tied to vigorous adhesion to collectivist ideas which predate Hagel and Marx. The state is a lost cause and to believe it can do anything requires faith as another comment stated regarding supposed Human caused global warming.

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  12. As a Christian I acknowledge my sins, past and present, and proclaim myself a sinner. If you sin and ask me about that I will honestly advise that you, too, are a sinner. The unsaved respond with anger or revulsion when their (and mine) condition is pointed out. The difference is I am going to avoid to the best of my ability insulting God who has washed my sins, past, present and future from y record through the sacrifices Christ made for me. I am forbidden from worshiping the State so I don't, one cannot serve two masters. Communists, Socialists and Liberals do worship the State and by doing so separate themselves from God. The choice is one or the other, trying to do both causes you to choose a false idol. Most Atheists I have met have been too detached from basic Christian beliefs to ever understand.If they made honest inquiry and appraisal I doubt they could continue to be Atheist, Communist, Socialist or Liberal (Progressive). But I ab being redundant regarding TL's piece. Carry on.

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  13. A non-believer simply borrows behavior from the local religion, which is a large part of our culture, but at the same time they will have no ownership of that culture and will not strictly follow the religious/cultural rules. As the number of non-believers increases then they begin to create their own culture and you see it every day in our multicultural society that has been promoted by those who attempt to change culture to fit their behavioral model. All cultures are not equal and it is not hard to note which cultures succeed and which are dying without outside help. It is not hard to realize why civilizations fail when one can note how its culture was changed or modified. indyjonesouthere

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  14. ...how does that old quote go? "Having eyes they do not see, having ears they do not hear." I will do all I can with God's help to live my life surrendered to the One who paid it all. "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me". And although I pray for those who don't believe, the truth of the Gospels are foolishness to those who don't believe. His creation speaks loudly of a Creator. Our innate moral compass did not 'evolve' over millenia, nor is it something our environment taught us. Denying the truth does not make the truth go away. It is still the Truth. And the Way, and the Life. Sure, some will want to argue, some will choose to deny the evidence all around them.
    But, eventually... every knee shall bow, and every tongue will confess
    that Jesus Christ is Lord. "Every" means just that. "Every".
    May the Lord bless you and keep you, on this most holy of days.
    - Grandpa

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  15. Got one of those "agnostics" living at my house, he fits 2 Timothy 3:7 perfectly: "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." Always coming to my wife (his mom) with some new thing he learned on youtube about why Christianity is so bad.... While living and benefiting in the greatest country with the greatest freedoms in the history of ever, set up by God-fearing men.

    He's still stumped by my question, "name a country not founded on Christianity that you would like to live in."

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